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List of recommended LAME compiles, Discussion
Kblood
post Apr 17 2002, 14:11
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For starters, nspsytune2 isn't practical to use in a "recommended" build because it requires 2 passes and an external program to be used, not to mention that even according to Naoki it's still very early and needs more tuning.


Does this mean that it might (finally!! smile.gif) bring along a 2-pass vbr mp3 encoding tool? That would be great!!!
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post Apr 17 2002, 15:50
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No, it's not a 2-pass VBR.
With nspsytune2, the first pass calculates tonality estimation, while in the second pass, the tonality estimation calculation is applied to the masking spread function. Or something like that, don't take my word for it.
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post Apr 17 2002, 16:18
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Not 100% sure but I think even bigger reason for nspsy2's 2-pass is the new 4096 point hybrid FIR/FFT filter used by psychoacoustics.
Without nspsy2 Lame's psychoacoustics (both gpsycho and nspsytune) uses the normal 1024 point FFT.


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post Apr 17 2002, 18:48
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I'd like to suggest that a link to the latest LAME compiles could be maintained in the download section of the site. For those people who don't visit the site daily and aren't familiar with all the technical updates, a one stop link would be a good way for less knowledgable users to stay up to date.

Otherwise, if there are links to recommended compiles of LAME 3.92, could someone please post them.

Thanks,

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post Apr 17 2002, 20:17
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It will be done as soon as the new site design is complete. Which should happen quite soon.

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post Apr 19 2002, 22:29
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"Real soon now," i like that phrase :listening


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post May 23 2002, 19:48
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http://www.audiograbber.de/redir/?l=lame_exe

or http://www.hot.ee/smpman/mp3/
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post May 26 2002, 19:59
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Does anyone know a lame dll version 3.92 or later which can be used with EAC and the alt preset system. I want to use --alt-preset fast standard
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Jan S.
post May 26 2002, 20:15
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You don't need to have the dll version.
Just use the exe for EAC.
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post May 26 2002, 20:23
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I know, but i find using a DLL is more comfortable, because i can see the status of the encoding in EAC without an extra window.
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post May 26 2002, 20:30
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You can use CDex as ripper, then. It uses the DLL.

www.cdex.n3.net

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post May 26 2002, 20:52
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I only use EAC and don't want to change....

Perhabs in the future the --alt-presets can be used in EAC?

Altough, thank for your fast answers! ohmy.gif
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post May 27 2002, 08:41
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I thought if you use the configuration wizard of EAC to set up lame.exe, it automatically uses --alt-preset standard already?
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post May 27 2002, 10:16
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the alt presets CAN be used in EAC!!!
in the compression settings dialog you just choose "LAME mp3 encoder" and write "--alt-preset standard" or something else in the additinal commandline field.
remember to give it the path to the lame.exe.
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post May 27 2002, 13:25
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I know that and I am doing it that way already.
But a DLL is more comfortable because it is more integrated in the program.
And with a DLL i don't have to change "delete .wav after compression" when i want to compress directly from CD instead of compressing a file on my hard disc.
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post May 27 2002, 14:06
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I was answering Shiki
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post May 27 2002, 17:12
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oh sorry sad.gif

Can you ever forgive me? wink.gif
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Perhaps.
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post Sep 30 2002, 21:46
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QUOTE (Dibrom @ Dec 21 2001 - 09:48 PM)
The currently recommended DLL binary is:

http://static.hydrogenaudio.org/extra/LAME...ied_dll-ICL.zip

Note:  The .dll recommended here makes use of john33's modifications (thanks!) which map certain quality settings to the --alt-presets.  Please READ the included explanation of these mappings before using this .dll

Is there a new link for this DLL? The link here doesn't seem valid anymore. Thanks.


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post Oct 9 2002, 01:07
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Is there a new dll with the --alt-presets ??
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post Oct 9 2002, 02:03
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QUOTE (goweropolis @ Sep 30 2002 - 11:46 PM)
Is there a new link for this DLL? The link here doesn't seem valid anymore. Thanks.

Now it works again. Thanks.


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post Oct 9 2002, 15:53
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QUOTE (Jan S. @ May 27 2002 - 09:16 AM)
in the compression settings dialog you just choose "LAME mp3 encoder" and write "--alt-preset standard" or something else in the additinal commandline field.

The problem with EAC is that it always wants to put in a bitrate parameter, which is surely going to mess with the preset? There's no easy way to put in your own custom command line like you can in RazorLame sad.gif

I wanted to use "--alt-preset 150 --lowpass 17.5" - so I wrote a little wrapper app in VB which strips out the extra parameters EAC adds and gives a clean command line. In the old version of EAC it was easy to do this using a command file, but this method no longer works in the latest version mad.gif
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post Oct 9 2002, 16:06
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QUOTE (masterofimages @ Oct 9 2002 - 04:53 PM)
The problem with EAC is that it always wants to put in a bitrate parameter, which is surely going to mess with the preset? There's no easy way to put in your own custom command line like you can in RazorLame  sad.gif

No problem at all. Just choose user-defined encoder. Then no additional stuff will be added (but also not the source and destination filename)

So you can use aps in this way:

--alt-preset standard %s %d

Done.
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post Oct 9 2002, 17:28
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QUOTE (JohnV @ Oct 8 2002 - 06:03 PM)
QUOTE (goweropolis @ Sep 30 2002 - 11:46 PM)
Is there a new link for this DLL? The link here doesn't seem valid anymore. Thanks.

Now it works again. Thanks.

Thanks for fixing the link John! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 9 2002, 22:26
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I have a version of lame 3.92 from the following site:
http://www.hot.ee/smpman/mp3,
and I downloaded lame 3.90.2 from the link posted and I noticed something different.

LAME 3.90.2
File: Cymbals.wav (general cymbal test)
Switches: --alt-preset standard
Avg. Bitrate: 219.3Kbps LR: 871 (75.74%) MS: 279 (24.26%)

LAME 3.92 (http://www.hot.ee/smpman/mp3)
File: Cymbals.wav (general cymbal test)
switches: --alt-preset standard
Avg. Bitrate: 224.4Kbps LR: 896 (77.91%) MS: 254 (22.09%)

Would you still recommend using the official LAME 3.90.2? I'm not sure why the bitrate of the two files are different, and why the LR and MS frames are different.
Could somebody explain the cause of this?
-Andrew-
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