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I believe it depends on how DivX themselves licensed the MPEG4 IP, and if there aren't any catches in DXN's EULA.

Think about it... you can get several MP3 encoders for free (WMP10, iTunes, MusicMatch...). So, if I have any of these, I'm automatically eligible to use LAME all I want?

well, i think it should be, cause what they ask you  (fh for example), is to pay for the idea ... so if i buy the license, i can use whatever implementation ... or that's my reasoning ... that doesn't means they could try to put something on their EULAs

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for instance, we wouldn't be seeing interesting drugs being developed (it literally costs billions of dollars to release a new drug in the market) if laboratories wouldn't have guarantee of investment return.

my familly actually has a clinic, and i can tell you that the laboratories are as thieves as all the others ...

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my familly actually has a clinic, and i can tell you that the laboratories are as thieves as all the others ...[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=330681"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


They are not thieves. They are corporations. Corporations want money. As much as possible. And they play dirty if needed be. Welcome to the capitalist world.

The day you see a successful corporation that lives out of people's charity, please come and tell me.

Laboratories are greedy? Good for them. I'd rather live in a world with greedy laboratories than live in old China and depend on wacko herbal and animal formulas to cure my ailings.

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well, i think it should be, cause what they ask you  (fh for example), is to pay for the idea ... so if i buy the license, i can use whatever implementation ... or that's my reasoning ... that doesn't means they could try to put something on their EULAs

Your agreement is with DivX and not with the MPEG-LA, so you will have to go by their licensing terms and I think those are quite clear in that the "rights" you "obtain" with buying DivX are not transferable to other software, at least last time I checked. This whole "I can use XviD because I bought DivX" is a bit silly anyway as I doubt using XviD for private purposes without paying anything would even be against MPEG-LA licensing terms.

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Shit. I need to patent triple-clicking right away!

Too late, I already filed it together with the simultaneous left-and-right click.
"We cannot win against obsession. They care, we don't. They win."

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They are not thieves. They are corporations. Corporations want money. As much as possible. And they play dirty if needed be. Welcome to the capitalist world.

The day you see a successful corporation that lives out of people's charity, please come and tell me.

Laboratories are greedy? Good for them. I'd rather live in a world with greedy laboratories than live in old China and depend on wacko herbal and animal formulas to cure my ailings.

you are two conformist roberto, is just a shame, someone as young as you ... capitalism is not really the way to go (neithet is comunism) ... have you heard of "empresarial responsabilities"? would you just say, well, the amazona is disappearing, corporations don't care about amazona ... come on roberto ... you sound like an 80 years old millionaire ...

edit: i recommend you to read for example this http://trends.newsforge.com/print.pl?sid=05/10/01/1548246

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you are two conformist roberto, is just a shame, someone as young as you ... capitalism is not really the way to go (neithet is comunism) ...


I'd rather be a conformist that people enjoy to hang out with than a reactionary activist people would rather avoid as if was the pest (yes, I'm talking about you, Javier. I won't be hypocrite here)

And I won't get into the capitalism versus communism discussion here. Specially because this debate lost all merit some 20 years ago. Communism lost, capitalism won. End of story. If you dislike capitalism, go live in Mars or maybe North Korea (not Cuba because I suppose Castro will die any time now, and then it'll probably go back to capitalism)

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have you heard of "empresarial responsabilities"? would you just say, well, the amazona is disappearing, corporations don't care about amazona ...


Yes, they don't. What am I going to do about it? Go and chain myself to a tree? Picket at said corporations' doorsteps? Hush.

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come on roberto ... you sound like an 80 years old millionaire ...


I sound like a pessimist that has no hope for mankind. Simple as that. I know there are grave issues facing the world these days, but I have no self-empowerment delusions that I can make a difference. That's just a standard activism catch phrase. YOU can make a difference only if you are at the head of one of these picketeering organizations, controlling their pro-life pro-nature against-globalization against-neoliberalism masses.

And ignorant masses that just blindly follow the leader make me sick.

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edit: i recommend you to read for example this http://trends.newsforge.com/print.pl?sid=05/10/01/1548246[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331167"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


The second line in that page turned me off. I don't need another heavily biased anti-Microsoft diatribe from Linux zealots. If I needed, I would just drop by Slashdot at any given time.

But thank-you anyway.

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I sound like a pessimist that has no hope for mankind. Simple as that.

too sad roberto, you really sound smart for many things, but not not when you talk about this kind of problems ... maybe in 10/20 years ... too sad.

edit: i hoppe the world would be a better place than it is now, for my sons, and for my grandsons ...

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I'd rather be a conformist that people enjoy to hang out with than a reactionary activist people would rather avoid as if was the pest (yes, I'm talking about you, Javier. I won't be hypocrite here)

that is so low on you ... what you know what people actually think of me? it is such an incredibly childish comment on you ...

edit3: i would give you a list of "reactionary activists" you can google arround and read what they thought:
john lennon
mahatma ghandi
madre teresa de calcuta
...
they are plenty more, but start with them...

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edit: i hoppe the world would be a better place than it is now, for my sons, and for my grandsons ...


Of course I hope the same. But that's just a hope. I'm powerless to make any guarantees in that regard. And I won't go around poking whines at big corporations (your favourite nemesis) just to present myself as a rebel against the "system".

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edit3: i would give you a list of "reactionary activists" you can google arround and read what they thought:
john lennon


Lennon is remembered for what he sung and composed, not what he thought.

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mahatma ghandi


Ghandi had a legitimate cause - independency for his country. Not some childish ideologies - like Lennon had, or these anti-corporation anti-globalization people have.

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madre teresa de calcuta


Mother Theresa, likewise, is remembered for her charity work, not what she thought.

Now, if you want to talk about meaningful activists that are remembered for what they thought and fought for and not for trying to just stir some controversy (that rules out Bono, Sartre and Malcolm X), I would list:

Martin Luther King
Ghandi himself
The sufragists
etc.

All of them had valid, well thought-out causes. They didn't just adhere to some mindless ready-made cause like "let's fight corporations", "let's fight capitalism"...

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Of course I hope the same. But that's just a hope. I'm powerless to make any guarantees in that regard. And I won't go around poking whines at big corporations (your favourite nemesis) just to present myself as a rebel against the "system".

you are wrong again ... i fight for nobel causes ... or what i think they are ... sadly, the time is giving me the reason ... the world is worst as times pases ...

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Lennon is remembered for what he sung and composed, not what he thought.

really? "all you need is love"? "imagine" that ... maybe is for what you remmeber him ...

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Ghandi had a legitimate cause - independency for his country. Not some childish ideologies - like Lennon had, or these anti-corporation anti-globalization people have.

wow, you really bettered yourself with that comments (pretty smart!)

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Mother Theresa, likewise, is remembered for her charity work, not what she thought.

you can't seem to see the tree from the forest ... mt was trying to make a diference, to change the world, to make people realize about the pooberty of the others, and change it ...

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Now, if you want to talk about meaningful activists that are remembered for what they thought and fought for and not for trying to just stir some controversy (that rules out Bono, Sartre and Malcolm X), I would list:

wow again roberto! you are now better/smarter than lennon, bono, malcom x, and i dont know how many more! perfect ...

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All of them had valid, well thought-out causes. They didn't just adhere to some mindless ready-made cause like "let's fight corporations", "let's fight capitalism"...

then again ... is "lets fight unjustness" ...

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you are wrong again ... i fight for nobel causes ... or what i think they are ... sadly, the time is giving me the reason ... the world is worst as times pases ...


I can't make heads and toes of that sentence. Please rephrase.

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really? "all you need is love"? "imagine" that ... maybe is for what you remmeber him ...


(Nearly?) Nobody listens to Imagine because of its humanitarian content. They listen to it because it's a beautiful song, with beautiful melody and poetry.

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mt was trying to make a diference, to change the world, to make people realize about the pooberty of the others, and change it ...


I know she was trying to make that. Nearly nobody remembers her for that, and the Vatican isn't going to cononize her for that, but because of some badly wretched and hurried sanctification process involving some hardly verifiable miracle.

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wow again roberto! you are now better/smarter than lennon, bono, malcom x, and i dont know how many more! perfect ...


Don't be a dick, Javier. I am just a little less egolatre then them. If you can't understand the meaning of that word... hush.

Talking about that, please do an advanced english course, or at least pass your posts through a spell checker.

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then again ... is "lets fight unjustness" ...[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331305"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


"Injustice" would work better there, I suppose.

God speed, man.

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I can't make heads and toes of that sentence. Please rephrase.

never mind

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(Nearly?) Nobody listens to Imagine because of its humanitarian content. They listen to it because it's a beautiful song, with beautiful melody and poetry.

right, maybe you don't

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Don't be a dick, Javier. I am just a little less egolatre then them. If you can't understand the meaning of that word... hush.

why the constant need of insult?

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Talking about that, please do an advanced english course, or at least pass your posts through a spell checker.

yeah, right, my "english-is-my-mother-tonge" friend ... right ...