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2014 codec poll
What's your music library made of?
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post Apr 6 2014, 23:48
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QUOTE (ktf @ Apr 6 2014, 12:10) *
As is the case with LossyWAV too, of course.


Yup. Regardless of your own hearing and sensibility to lossy artifacts (which are very close to non-existant with modern codecs at half the bitrate), the peace of mind element is pretty cool, IMO.


Apart from the peace of mind re artifacts, I get to have near lossless copies of my music collection in a format I like (FLAC) at reasonable bitrates by lossless standards. I also enjoy great battery life using lossyFLAC on my Nexus 4 (via Poweramp).


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post Apr 7 2014, 02:59
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QUOTE (ktf @ Apr 6 2014, 12:10) *
As is the case with LossyWAV too, of course.

QUOTE (akin0780 @ Apr 6 2014, 19:48) *
I get to have near lossless copies of my music collection in a format I like (FLAC) at reasonable bitrates by lossless standards.

Though at a bitrate ~50% higher than what I consider my personal 'WavPack's comfort zone' while still yielding the same artifact/noise free files.

QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 6 2014, 02:13) *
(...)the peace of mind element is pretty cool, IMO.

Yep. Nothing better than knowing you're listening to those cymbals, castanets, etcetera as they sound the way they should under all circumstances.

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post Apr 7 2014, 03:23
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QUOTE (akin0780 @ Mar 31 2014, 19:54) *
That's not exactly correct, eahm. LossyWAV defies categorization as either lossy or lossless.

Can you please explain? Sorry I don't get it.
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post Apr 7 2014, 03:33
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QUOTE (includemeout @ Apr 6 2014, 17:59) *
QUOTE (ktf @ Apr 6 2014, 12:10) *
As is the case with LossyWAV too, of course.

QUOTE (akin0780 @ Apr 6 2014, 19:48) *
I get to have near lossless copies of my music collection in a format I like (FLAC) at reasonable bitrates by lossless standards.

Though at a bitrate ~50% higher than what I consider my personal 'WavPack's comfort zone' while still yielding the same artifact/noise free files.

QUOTE (skamp @ Apr 6 2014, 02:13) *
(...)the peace of mind element is pretty cool, IMO.

Yep. Nothing better than knowing you're listening to those cymbals, castanets, etcetera as they sound the way they should under all circumstances.


I have no doubt that Wavpack lossy is very good in and of itself, although I do think that lossyFLAC has the edge being pure VBR. Wavpack lossy is based on an ABR model of sorts.


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QUOTE (eahm @ Apr 6 2014, 18:23) *
QUOTE (akin0780 @ Mar 31 2014, 19:54) *
That's not exactly correct, eahm. LossyWAV defies categorization as either lossy or lossless.

Can you please explain? Sorry I don't get it.


Whilst being technically "lossy", lossyWAV qualifies to be called "near lossless" since what it does is reduce bit depth dynamically, free from the dictates of psychoacoustic models.


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QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Apr 2 2014, 13:07) *
There is another lossy codec I sometimes use. It's DTS

Correct. I have some music files with DTS and it seems one can make those at home. smile.gif

Nothing has changed. Flac for the lossless files, like disc images with cuesheets. MP3 -V3 for the poular files, casusal listening and for the Sansa Clip that my wife uses.
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QUOTE (collector @ Apr 13 2014, 05:01) *
QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Apr 2 2014, 13:07) *
There is another lossy codec I sometimes use. It's DTS

Correct. I have some music files with DTS and it seems one can make those at home. smile.gif

Nothing has changed. Flac for the lossless files, like disc images with cuesheets. MP3 -V3 for the poular files, casusal listening and for the Sansa Clip that my wife uses.

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LossyWAV and WavPack Lossy are most definitely lossy, which is why they are named that way. If the input is not identical to the output of the codec, it's lossy, period. "Near lossless" is a meaningless term. If it's near, but not identical, then it's lossy.

They don't use a psychoacoustic model like other lossy codecs, so they do behave a bit differently in terms of the kind of artifacts you'll hear and at which bit rates. But they are still lossy.


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post Jul 2 2014, 14:39
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FLAC for just about everything I rip from cds.

QAAC -TVBR 90 (190kbps) for portable use and in my car.


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