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FLAC 1.1.3 beta1 available
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post Nov 7 2006, 08:04
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yeah, this is only for the windows binary, I couldn't get MSVC6 to accept dashes in /D arguments in the .dsp file, even with quoting. the 1.1.3 final will not have this problem since there will be no beta suffix or dashes.

Egor, thanks for the file, will check it out tomorrow.

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post Nov 9 2006, 10:18
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I wanted to warn a smaller project, but i cannot seem to find any api documentation of 1.1.3 (the website has the old stuff and can't find anything in cvs).

So were can api documentation be found?
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post Nov 9 2006, 17:29
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yes, unfortunately the API docs are built from sources at release time and not checked in. the easiest way would be to check out CVS head anonymously:

http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=13478

...and run Doxygen. or just read the raw porting guide in include/FLAC/all.h:

http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*...lude/FLAC/all.h

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post Nov 12 2006, 22:38
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QUOTE (anticrust @ Nov 7 2006, 01:51) *
One small problem with version info. I use flac.exe –version and metaflac.exe –show-vendor-tag in a windows batch script to determine if a .flac file needs to be updated to a newer version. The problem is the output is no longer consistent.

flac.exe –version = flac 1.1.3beta2
metaflac.exe --show-vendor-tag = reference libFLAC 1.1.3-beta2 20061016

The “-“ seems to be the problem. Can you make the change in the final version so my script will work again?

Thanks!


Would you mind posting your batch file please? I would love to know which of my FLAC files need updating and let the batch file go through them all and update just the ones that need updating.
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post Nov 15 2006, 06:31
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That function is part of a larger script I use for multi-format flac conversion. You can download my current 1.1.2 compatable package from: http://www.revnull.com/download.php?file=!convert.zip
Just unzip the !convert directory into the root of your flac file directory. Run the flac-util.cmd script and follow the prompts.
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Jose Hidalgo
post Nov 15 2006, 11:28
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Hi everybody,

I was just wondering if the LYRICS tab request (see previous topic pages) has been taken into consideration (maybe it already has). IMHO it should be quite easy to implement (I guess it's just an empty space of a given size, isn't it ?).

Josh ? Any news on that matter ?

Thanks again / Jose
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post Nov 15 2006, 15:26
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QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 15 2006, 16:28) *
I was just wondering if the LYRICS tab request (see previous topic pages) has been taken into consideration (maybe it already has). IMHO it should be quite easy to implement (I guess it's just an empty space of a given size, isn't it ?).

Hi, support for LYRICS tag has already been added. You can add lyrics text to your flac files like that:
flac.exe --tag-from-file=LYRICS=lyrics.txt (while encoding),
metaflac.exe --set-tag-from-file="LYRICS=lyrics.txt"

If you want to add an empty LYRICS tag, then use following options:
flac.exe --tag=LYRICS="" (while encoding)
metaflac.exe --set-tag="LYRICS="
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post Nov 15 2006, 17:25
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QUOTE (anticrust @ Nov 15 2006, 00:31) *
That function is part of a larger script I use for multi-format flac conversion. You can download my current 1.1.2 compatable package from: http://www.revnull.com/download.php?file=!convert.zip
Just unzip the !convert directory into the root of your flac file directory. Run the flac-util.cmd script and follow the prompts.


Thank you!
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jcoalson
post Nov 16 2006, 06:21
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QUOTE (Egor @ Nov 7 2006, 00:13) *
Foobar2000 generates multichannel WAV files, which are not compatible with flac.exe 1.1.3 and Windows Media Encoder. I've sent you a sample to the address at sf.net.

ok, these look like the WAV files flac used to generate too, they are 6ch WAVEFORMATEX which are technically not allowed but common.

the way I am handling this in flac-1.1.3 is an undocumented option '--channel-map=none' to let flac assume the channels are in WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE's order. note that you still have to feed flac a multichannel file that uses one of the legal channel assignments (http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*...ml#frame_header) if you want to make sure the decoded WAV later has the right channels in the right order with the right channel mask.

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Jose Hidalgo
post Nov 16 2006, 09:06
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Thanks Egor for your valuable information. Now all we need is music software support for FLAC 1.1.3 including the new "picture" and "LYRICS" tags.

FLAC 1.1.3 is going to ROCK ! laugh.gif

Oh BTW, what's the point in adding an empty LYRICS tag ? I don't understand. crying.gif
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post Nov 16 2006, 09:29
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QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 16 2006, 14:06) *
Oh BTW, what's the point in adding an empty LYRICS tag ? I don't understand. crying.gif

An empty LYRICS tag is kinda LYRICS tab you've asked about smile.gif :
QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 15 2006, 16:28) *
I was just wondering if the LYRICS tab request (see previous topic pages) has been taken into consideration (maybe it already has).
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Jose Hidalgo
post Nov 17 2006, 15:09
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Ooh, sorry, I meant "tag" not "tab" ! tongue.gif

My question was just about the use of an EMPTY lyrics tag. As far as I know we are not compelled to tell FLAC to define empty tags for all the other tags (title, album, genre, etc, etc.). They are default-defined (and empty of course until they are filled), and I guess it will be the same for the picture and LYRICS tags.

So I don't see the use in defining an empty lyrics tag, except for deleting the lyrics you don't want anymore of course. Is that what you meant ? unsure.gif

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post Nov 17 2006, 17:13
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QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 17 2006, 09:09) *
My question was just about the use of an EMPTY lyrics tag. As far as I know we are not compelled to tell FLAC to define empty tags for all the other tags (title, album, genre, etc, etc.). They are default-defined (and empty of course until they are filled), and I guess it will be the same for the picture and LYRICS tags.

that's right

QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 17 2006, 09:09) *
So I don't see the use in defining an empty lyrics tag, except for deleting the lyrics you don't want anymore of course.

for that you can use 'metaflac --remove-tag=LYRICS'

another update: 1.1.3 is in final testing now so it should be ready witihin a week or so. updated comparison here:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html

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Jose Hidalgo
post Nov 17 2006, 17:28
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Thanks Josh, that's great news !

No offense intended of course, but as far as I know the information on WavPack given at http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html is a bit outdated isn't it ? Here ( http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...less_comparison ) it seems that WavPack has both streaming capabilities and hardware support. Am I wrong ? (I am not used to WavPack).

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post Nov 17 2006, 20:13
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yeah, that part does need some maintenance but I fixed some of the glaring stuff.
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post Nov 18 2006, 00:33
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Sort of off-topic, but the developers page at http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*.../api/index.html doesn't seem to exist.
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post Nov 18 2006, 10:30
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QUOTE (Jebus @ Nov 18 2006, 05:33) *
Sort of off-topic, but the developers page at http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*.../api/index.html doesn't seem to exist.

You can find the documentation in the latest source tarball (e.g., flac-1.1.3-beta2.tar.gz). See also the quote below:
QUOTE (jcoalson @ Nov 9 2006, 22:29) *
yes, unfortunately the API docs are built from sources at release time and not checked in. the easiest way would be to check out CVS head anonymously:

http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=13478

...and run Doxygen. or just read the raw porting guide in include/FLAC/all.h:

http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*...lude/FLAC/all.h
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post Nov 19 2006, 19:25
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QUOTE (jcoalson @ Oct 26 2006, 15:10) *
the beta seems fine. I'm still writing patches for various projects that are affected by API changes to make the transition easier. should be a couple more weeks.

Josh

Have you been in contact with the developers behind taglib? It is a popular open source metadata lib and getting things like lyrics and image support in there means that probably very soon a lot of open source players will support it.

They are working on releasing 1.5 (stable) soon but getting it in now would still be on time judging from the dev-list.

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post Nov 28 2006, 09:38
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Are there any news regarding the final testing? (...another update: 1.1.3 is in final testing now so it should be ready witihin a week or so...)
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post Nov 28 2006, 20:20
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Hi all,

I just checked the download site again and flac 1.1.3 is now out and ready to download!
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Jose Hidalgo
post Nov 28 2006, 23:13
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Thanks fairway.

However I don't see any mention of the LYRICS tag in the changelog : http://flac.sourceforge.net/changelog.html.

And the windows installer link ( http://cyberial.com/flacinstaller.asp ) still points to FLAC 1.1.2a : it seems that only the "tools only" link ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ackage_id=12675 ) has been updated.

huh.gif

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post Nov 28 2006, 23:39
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You will find the Windows binaries over here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...lease_id=467249

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post Nov 28 2006, 23:47
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Same links as the last one I gave up here (same binaries in fact)... tongue.gif Thanks anyway !
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QUOTE (Jose Hidalgo @ Nov 28 2006, 15:13) *
Thanks fairway.

However I don't see any mention of the LYRICS tag in the changelog : http://flac.sourceforge.net/changelog.html.

And the windows installer link ( http://cyberial.com/flacinstaller.asp ) still points to FLAC 1.1.2a : it seems that only the "tools only" link ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ackage_id=12675 ) has been updated.

huh.gif


Yes, I agree with you, a reference in the FLAC 1.1.3 Docs and CHANGELOG would be nice to let people know that the "LYRICS" tag is the approved tag name for embedding LYRICS in a FLAC file. Josh has posted here that he thinks we should use the LYRICS name for the Tag, plus many others here in this thread have agreed to standadize the tag name on "LYRICS". We need authors to know this so they start supporting an optional LYRICS tag/info along with the new ALBUM ART that the new FLAC version is supporting.

Also a new validated news thread for the FLAC 1.1.3 press release should be started as this thread is for the FLAC 1.1.3 beta, plus it's getting quite long. Just my opinion...

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post Nov 29 2006, 06:51
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I am waiting on the windows installer from Mike (since that is what most people use) before doing the official announcement, to avoid confusion. but you can get binaries and source for 1.1.3 on sourceforge.

the LYRICS tag is strictly a user issue. neither FLAC nor Vorbis specify tagging policy, and the only real recommendations are here. the LYRICS tag as described in this thread is intuitive so I don't see any problem with adoption.

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