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Topic: WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz (Read 13025 times) previous topic - next topic
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WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

So I have a WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz file that I want to convert to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz (basically just change the format, no change to quality or anything), the problem is when I finish converting the file the new WMA Lossless file is only 16bit even though I specifically ask for 24bit in the encoder settings of various sound converters, does anyone have any idea what's going on?

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #1 –
What encoder are you using? CUETools.Converter seems to work fine for 24-bit stereo.
CUETools 2.1.6

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #2 –
I'm not sure, the converters I've used such as Switch Sound File Converter and Mediamonkey which actually manage to output a WMA Lossless file don't say what encoders they use, only allow you to change the settings in them and other converters are too complicated for me to configure or don't have support for WMA lossless. I'm currently using audiocoder which looks promising although I can't seem to work out how to configure it to output WMA lossless, not even sure if it can.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #3 –
Does it have to be WMA lossless?

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #4 –
Quote from: pdq on
Does it have to be WMA lossless?


I use WMA lossless as I only use Windows Media Player as my music player, I'm not into 3rd party media players as far as building a music library is concerned. I know this topic is going to hear the word FLAC so many times and if Microsoft supported it then I would convert my entire library to FLAC, but since I've used WMP since way before admiring lossless audio and pretty much know my way around it then I don't mind having my lossless material in WMA Lossless, it also makes it easier when it comes to tagging through Windows explorer.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

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Quote from: yourma2000 on
I use WMA lossless as I only use Windows Media Player as my music player, I'm not into 3rd party media players as far as building a music library is concerned. I know this topic is going to hear the word FLAC so many times and if Microsoft supported it then I would convert my entire library to FLAC, but since I've used WMP since way before admiring lossless audio and pretty much know my way around it then I don't mind having my lossless material in WMA Lossless, it also makes it easier when it comes to tagging through Windows explorer.


Well, you can install this in order to make Windows natively support FLAC, OGG and others. And for tagging and sorting your library within Windows Media Player, have a look at WMP Tag Plus. 

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #7 –
Winamp is able to encode to WMAL.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

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Quote from: TomasPin on
Quote from: yourma2000 on
I use WMA lossless as I only use Windows Media Player as my music player, I'm not into 3rd party media players as far as building a music library is concerned. I know this topic is going to hear the word FLAC so many times and if Microsoft supported it then I would convert my entire library to FLAC, but since I've used WMP since way before admiring lossless audio and pretty much know my way around it then I don't mind having my lossless material in WMA Lossless, it also makes it easier when it comes to tagging through Windows explorer.


Well, you can install this in order to make Windows natively support FLAC, OGG and others. And for tagging and sorting your library within Windows Media Player, have a look at WMP Tag Plus. 



I've had problems using FLAC codecs and tag support messing up my explorer.exe and bogging my system down in the past, it's one of the reasons I frown upon FLAC, like I said though, if Microsoft would integrated official support then I would use the format.



Quote from: Apesbrain on
Have you tried Windows Expression Encoder?
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/research/archive/2...-wma-files.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/de...s.aspx?id=27870



Sweet! That worked fine, thanks for the suggestion, the file is finally being output at 24bit Stereo 44.1khz and are the right file size.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #9 –
Quote from: yourma2000 on
I've had problems using FLAC codecs and tag support messing up my explorer.exe and bogging my system down in the past, it's one of the reasons I frown upon FLAC, like I said though, if Microsoft would integrated official support then I would use the format.

Neither the Xiph.org codecs or WMP Tag Plus integrate into Explorer, so you definitely shouldn't see any issues there. If you see any other issues then please let me know  (I'm the author of WMP Tag Plus).

I also think that you shouldn't just drop the FLAC format altogether because of some (old?) instable codecs/plug-ins.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #11 –
What about them? I don't understand what you're getting at.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #12 –
Quote from: yourma2000 on
I've had problems using FLAC codecs and tag support messing up my explorer.exe and bogging my system down

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Apesbrain on
Have you tried Windows Expression Encoder?
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/research/archive/2...-wma-files.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/de...s.aspx?id=27870


I was looking into this for other reasons, when I try to install it it asks for an activation code but on MS's web site it appears to be free w/ no indication of how to get activation code or what it costs... what am I doing wrong?  (or is M$ screwed up again?)

to the OP - making WMP work with FLAC is the easier way by far, two downloads and Bob's your uncle.

Unfortunately making the stock in-car entertainment in a recent model BMW recognize a lossless format other than WMA is more difficult which is why I'm asking the questions that I am.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #15 –
Yes, and tolerance of ID3 by parsing programs is a bonus when it does exist and should not be expected.
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What kinds of tags does FLAC support?

FLAC has it's own native tagging system which is identical to that of Vorbis. They are called alternately "FLAC tags" and "Vorbis comments". It is the only tagging system required and guaranteed to be supported by FLAC implementations.

Out of convenience, the reference decoder knows how to skip ID3 tags so that they don't interfere with decoding. But you should not expect any tags beside FLAC tags to be supported in applications; some implementations may not even be able to decode a FLAC file with ID3 tags.

WAV 24bit stereo 44.1khz to WMA Lossless 24bit stereo 44.1khz

Reply #16 –
Quote from: probedb on
I thought FLAC used Vorbis not ID3?

...yet EAC and dBpoweramp will happily write ID3 to them anyway.